Heey everyone,
As you all know we have (been working hard for the past few months) to get in line with Mojangs EULA. As of creating this post, we believe that we have created a shop that makes the most out of the very restrictive EULA from Mojang and has the best perks for all of you.
We have created all of the plugins required for these changes and new features ourselves, you won’t find any of these plugins anywhere, ever. What does this mean for you? This means that you will be able to use features and perks that you are more than likely not going to use or see on any other modded minecraft server.
We understand that for some of you this is a set back in terms of perks that you used to have. We are very sorry for this, unfortunately we can’t do anything about it. If we were to keep all the perks there would be 2 issues:
- Mojang would blacklist us and we would have to bypass or shut down (we could also get sued).
- We could go bankrupt because no one buys the new perks/ranks.
Hopefully you will understand if you find that we need to remove perks or features from the store or from your old rank.
You may ask, why not just bypass?
Bypassing the EULA is currently done through a loophole, this loophole is gonna be patched someday… We want to be here for the long run, we do not want to have to close in a few months because the loophole got patched.
Besides this, we have a reputation to uphold. ToastyNetworks is looked upon within the Modded minecraft community, we have high standards and would like to keep it this way.
This post will be lengthy, but should contain a lot of details.
First of all we would like to talk with you about the new features we have (and still are) working hard on.
Let’s start off with Boosters. A Booster once used will allow Everyone on that selected server access to the perk for that time period. If you want to learn more on how they work and how to use them, you can click here.
Upon release, we will offer the following perks:
- Always-On Chunkloaders
- Enderchest
- Claim Blocks
- Heal
- Fly
- Workbench
- Feed
- Keep Inventory
Secondly, we would like to introduce 6 new ranks! Meet Hecate (15$), Artemis (25$), Tyche (35$), Hypnos( 45$), Poseidon (55$) and our brand new subscription rank based off Poseidon, Nemesis! (Base price: 5$ / month, see below)
Each rank will get a selection of boosters, trails, glows, pets, disguises, fancy hats, block trails and more features!
Nemesis is a new concept we are introducing. It will be a subscription rank for players who would like to support us monthly and get rewarded for doing it with monthly booster rewards.
The base price of this rank is 5$, this means that it starts at 5$. This rank requires you to select which boosters you would like to receive, that is why it has a base price. Depending on the boosters you select, the price will vary.
You can only purchase Nemesis if you purchased Poseidon first.
Another feature we have been working extremely hard on, Fancy Hats.
Fancy Hats are pieces of armor, like glasses, hats, backpacks, parachutes, weapons and more. These are all purely cosmetic and disguise your armor. Here are some examples of fancy hats you will be able to purchase once they are available:
We are very excited about these new cosmetics and we hope you are as well. We also plan to release top voter cosmetics and exclusive staff events as well. This will give you a chance to show off to your fellow Toasters! Talking about a Toaster…. there will also be a Toaster cosmetic 😉
Hold up… There’s more! On our 1.12 servers we are also releasing Pets! Pets are cute little animals that follow you around anywhere you go. There are over 200 different kind of pets. Each rank will give permission to more types of pets. We can’t wait to show you all some of these cute pets, so here are some pictures:
This is not all, we’ve also added some smaller changes. You will now be able to purchase custom join and leave messages. Here are a few examples that you will love:
We understand that you will have many questions and concerns about your current donator ranks. Let’s talk about that next.
We have tried our best to come up with solutions to maintain satisfaction for all parties. This is why we will not be removing the old ranks, regardless of what Mojang wants or thinks. However, we will be removing support for these legacy ranks. This means that on new servers, you will not have the same perks and will certainly not get the “single supply of…” items such as money, claim blocks, crate keys , etc.
Besides the removal of the support for these ranks we are also forced to remove some perks and permissions from the ranks:
- Ability to use Always-On Chunkloaders permanently (requires booster now)
- Ability to use the /fly command permanently (requires booster now)
- Ability to use the /heal command permanently (requires booster now)
- Ability to use the /feed command permanently (requires booster now)
- Ability to use the /god command permanently (requires booster now, will be available through community goals later this month)
This list may be changed at any time. If Mojang decides to disagree with this and wants to remove another perk from the old ranks, we will have to do it.
Seeing as the old ranks will no longer be supported, you will still be free to continue to use them if you want. However, we will be offering free migration to the new ranks. This will only be available for until 31 December 2018.
You can migrate your rank by going to the hub and using the following command: /convert
The migration table is as follows:
- Iris => Hecate
- Oculus => Hecate
- Requiem => Artemis
- Nyx => Tyche
- Lazarus => Hypnos
- Vulcan => Poseidon
- Mercury => Poseidon
As you might expect, an overhaul like this might come with new bugs as well. We hope that you will be able to help us find and report the bugs that you might discover. We aim to fix bugs as soon as possible. You can report bugs or issues by opening a ticket in-game, on Discord or by posting a thread on the forums.
We can imagine that you might still have a few questions or concerns, please do not hesitate to post a comment down below, ask in Discord or contact support if you would like to know more.
Please note: Fancy Hats and Block Trails are not yet available, we are waiting to hear back from Axle on this matter. His whereabouts are currently unknown. We expect to release these features as soon as possible.
We would like to hear what you all think about this shop overhaul, please do not hesitate to share your thoughts about this update down below!
cypherkaldarese said
Try now please
Also, is there a list somewhere of what the commands are for these new in game features? I cannot figure them out or find the commands anywhere (pets for instance).
Sorry, I know the staff must be freaking out, I hate to add to the insanity.
Pastabob said
Prices may change in the future depending on demand and server costs.
cypherkaldarese said
Also, is there a list somewhere of what the commands are for these new in game features? I cannot figure them out or find the commands anywhere (pets for instance).
Sorry, I know the staff must be freaking out, I hate to add to the insanity.
This is weird, let me try as well, brb.
cypherkaldarese said
Also, is there a list somewhere of what the commands are for these new in game features? I cannot figure them out or find the commands anywhere (pets for instance).
Sorry, I know the staff must be freaking out, I hate to add to the insanity.
Okay I see the issue, seems like the Subscriber checkout is different from the static package purchase. Working on fixing this asap but please give me a few hours. Thanks for letting me know.
I donated for the Lazarus rank for the “All ways Online chunkloaders” it gave me as long I kept it active by logging in. Also access to /fly when I wanted to use it and not having to use drac armor in order to fly.
Since those are now behind a booster which you got to keep buying in order to use them. I will no longer support this server and won’t be playing on this network anymore.
cypherkaldarese said
It should now be fixed mostly. Could you try again please?
Pastabob said
Please understand that the boosters are for everyone who is on the server within its duration – on busy packs, that easily could be 50+ people over the course of 3 hours (and these packs can have up to 1000 people in a week…)
Sure, this is a slight exaggeration, but let’s say all 1000 people benefited from $10 for a month of chunkloading as you are suggesting. That’s 1 cent per person for the month. According to the EULA, we are absolutely not allowed to give access to chunkloaders for just the donor, it has to be everyone. This means prices have to be somewhat steeper, sadly. Besides, with how it is, if 30 out of those 1000 people bought a day of chunkloading each month, then it would work out as the price you are saying for each of them, and still be a months supply of loaders.
We do not expect one person to buy a months worth of boosters by themselves, anyway – that would be an unhealthy business model.
We hate that the EULA is making us change the store that has been built up over years of suggestions and improvements. We would much rather have never been approached by Microsoft/Mojang so that we could continue to offer the old system of perks. Sadly, unless we bypassed the blacklist (which is likely only a temporary option anyway, as Rubbert explained), we cannot do this. If we did, Toasty would die for sure. It might take a year, but we would go down. This way, we can hopefully survive.
We know these changes are not ideal, but it is the only real option available to us apart from shutting down due to inevitable bankruptcy (which would mean all donors would lose their perks completely).
Besides, as Rubb said, depending on how boosters do and if we can support the server by reducing costs, booster costs could go down. We cannot promise anything, however – first, we have to hope this store is enough to just keep us afloat.
Still, thanks for sticking with us to at least this point. We are lucky to have an amazing community here at Toasty, so hopefully we can still look to the future with most of you still here.
NarniaBusiness said
Since those are now behind a booster which you got to keep buying in order to use them. I will no longer support this server and won’t be playing on this network anymore.
Sorry to see you go, Narnia. Good luck where you end up, and hopefully they will be safe from the server-killing EULA.
As I said above, if we could have kept the previous model which you donated under, we would have.
Rubbertjuh said
It works.
Thank you so much for your continuing hard work to bring us the best experience you can. I guess since I can remember a time with no TV in the house, changes necessary to keep something great like ToastyNetworks don’t bother me as much as others.
I think, what I read says that I have until Dec. 31 to convert to eula comliant rank? Does that mean I will keep my current perks, such as /fly, /god, until I convert?
So sorry you are having to deal with all this.
Evenstar59
evenstar said
I think, what I read says that I have until Dec. 31 to convert to eula comliant rank? Does that mean I will keep my current perks, such as /fly, /god, until I convert?
So sorry you are having to deal with all this.
Evenstar59
Appreciate the understand and kind words.
Unfortunately the /fly and /god (and other listed perks), have been removed effective immediately.
After 31 December we will simply no longer compensate and offer the conversion. The conversion is a service, the service will stop at end of this year.
If you did not convert your old rank by then, you will still keep it, but will have to buy new ranks with full price.
How do we see how many Toasty Points n such that we have? Also have the people who came over from DeVco been given the points that were mentioned when the merge was being discussed?
Ok, So i have read around and poked around the forums and site to try and figure this out, but Its not quite clear for me.
My goal, A Single chunk Online only chunk loader.
One post had The Chunk Loading Person mention that online only chunk loaders should function as usual. But I cant find online only chunk loaders in the store. The only listings were always online.
Does the “online only” violate this bullpucky EULA that MICROSOFT (not mojang) has foisted upon us? In which case wouldn’t that mean that the functionality of this variant of chunk loader, would also have to change?
Furthermore, the wording of these always on chunk loading boosters mentions having to possess a chunk loader. And that it would cease to function or something along those lines when the boosters ran out… Which if i am understanding correctly basically means. Buy chunk loading block > place block in chunk > activate booster > chunk stays loaded for duration of booster.
So like, I guess what i am really asking here is. “How do us plebs take advantage of a chunk loading booster that someone else activated?” Do we craft a thing? Do we /booster /chunkloader or some equivalent?
I am new here, but so far so amazeballs. Thanks to all the staff and their continuing amaze’ness’itude!
<3 Sums
SumsOfAnarchy said
My goal, A Single chunk Online only chunk loader.
One post had The Chunk Loading Person mention that online only chunk loaders should function as usual. But I cant find online only chunk loaders in the store. The only listings were always online.
Does the "online only" violate this bullpucky EULA that MICROSOFT (not mojang) has foisted upon us? In which case wouldn’t that mean that the functionality of this variant of chunk loader, would also have to change?
Furthermore, the wording of these always on chunk loading boosters mentions having to possess a chunk loader. And that it would cease to function or something along those lines when the boosters ran out… Which if i am understanding correctly basically means. Buy chunk loading block > place block in chunk > activate booster > chunk stays loaded for duration of booster.
So like, I guess what i am really asking here is. "How do us plebs take advantage of a chunk loading booster that someone else activated?" Do we craft a thing? Do we /booster /chunkloader or some equivalent?
I am new here, but so far so amazeballs. Thanks to all the staff and their continuing amaze’ness’itude!
<3 Sums
If online chunk loaders have remained the same, all you need is an iron block and a blaze rod. Place the iron block where you want a chunk loader and hit with the blaze rod.
I converted to Poseidon, however in the store I do not have the option to add Nemesis to my cart. Please let me know
Thanks
Birdie
Tried to convert, it says I am not eligible… What do I do ?
And that’s the final nail in the coffin, I’m out.
After donating hundred’s of dollars to Devco & Toasty over the years, to have most of the features taken away (first a consolidation of my two donor ranks, then features of the old Devco Store and now this) is a giant slap in the face as a player and customer. Whether it’s Mojang or Toasty, doesn’t really change the fact that as a customer of both, I feel like i just got screwed big time.
I do however want to wish Rubbertjuh and the Toasty team the best of luck for the future and hope that this EULA “thing” doesn’t cause you too many problems in the long term. Me, i’m going back to hosting my old and playing with a few friends.
On a side note, if i have to constantly pay for get my features, but the cost has to be high because “what about those people not paying that also get the benefit”… make a subscription only server. for $x you get access and all the old donor ranks are available to everybody all the time. At least this solve the “Freeloader” problem and you know the server’s costs are being covered by those generating the load.
Thank
B
I feel like your non-refund
was rendered as void as what I had purchased. As I no longer have what I paid for by your volition, I should receive my money in return.
Are the ranks restricted to only 1 server?
I have the Vulcan rank, from the DevCo migration, I usually play 2 servers, PO2 and DW2, now I can only migrate my rank to one of them?
That’s Communism, but instead, the few are paying for the many. The few are not impressed, if the many get their way, they will have to start paying themselves.
"So like, I guess what i am really asking here is. "How do us plebs take advantage of a chunk loading booster that someone else activated?" -SumsofAnarchy
That’s how society is. This is why American’s fought for freedom, so we could work harder and gain more independently regardless of class or culture. Or alternatively pay not at all, gain not at all.
The running costs for this network are too high to just have cosmetic stuff for sell, so we tried to find a way so everyone can contribute to the server expenses.
If everyone on the server just get one booster a month, you’d be able to have the same benefits as before. But we know that there are a lot of players that cannot contribute. If we force everyone to pay, a lot of players will just stop playing. Our community is important, and having a lot of players stop playing because they cannot pay will also affect those who are paying. It would mean losing friends met on the server.
We know that players that are playing for more will likely spend more, but those players are also using more resources than others.
We put so much effort to build a system that could work. We are not done yet. We will try to do our best to make it less painful to everyone. If you have any suggestion that can work, please let us know.
$15 is like a WoW sub, there’s millions who pay that.
That way everyone on each server each has the same benefits as each other player on the server, adn if I understand correctly, a level board is the goal of the EULA?
Einherjahr said
$15 is like a WoW sub, there’s millions who pay that.
That way everyone on each server each has the same benefits as each other player on the server, adn if I understand correctly, a level board is the goal of the EULA?
I`ll keep checking back to see how this evolves; I`d love to be back, I just don’t have the time to be spending on the full grind.
Unfortunately, that would require twice the server resources, and a lot of players will still play on the F2P server just because they can play with other players there.
-claimblocks: will they be determined through the ontime? or will everyone just get a certain amount and that’s it?
-chunkloaders: same here. how many chunkloaders will i have with the lowest new donor rank?
-homes: How many homes can each player set? or will there also be an amount depending on ontime f.e.?
greetings
wetherbees said
I replied to your original post, but as this announcement says, “You can migrate your rank by going to the hub and using the following command: /convert” Hub address is play.toastynetworks.net
_Row_ said
I was wondering about this too, also still wondering if there is a way to view the points we’ve gotten from voting and such?